{"id":10165,"date":"2021-07-20T21:25:49","date_gmt":"2021-07-20T19:25:49","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.artinterview.com\/interviews\/ai-weiwei\/"},"modified":"2021-07-21T17:11:59","modified_gmt":"2021-07-21T15:11:59","slug":"ai-weiwei","status":"publish","type":"interview","link":"https:\/\/artinterview.com\/en\/interviews\/ai-weiwei\/","title":{"rendered":"Ai Weiwei"},"content":{"rendered":"\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-large\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"1024\" height=\"685\" src=\"https:\/\/www.artinterview.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/07\/LD-Ai-Weiwei-photo-credit-Ai-Weiwei-Studio-1024x685.jpg\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-10129\" srcset=\"https:\/\/artinterview.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/07\/LD-Ai-Weiwei-photo-credit-Ai-Weiwei-Studio-1024x685.jpg 1024w, https:\/\/artinterview.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/07\/LD-Ai-Weiwei-photo-credit-Ai-Weiwei-Studio-300x201.jpg 300w, https:\/\/artinterview.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/07\/LD-Ai-Weiwei-photo-credit-Ai-Weiwei-Studio-768x513.jpg 768w, https:\/\/artinterview.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/07\/LD-Ai-Weiwei-photo-credit-Ai-Weiwei-Studio.jpg 1400w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 1024px) 100vw, 1024px\" \/><\/figure>\n\n\n<div class=\"blockauteur\">\n    <p class=\"mt-3\"  itemprop=\"author\" itemtype=\"http:\/\/schema.org\/Person\">By St\u00e9phanie Pioda<\/p>\n<\/div>\n\n<div class=\"intBlockQR\">\n    <div class=\"intBlockQR__Q\"><p>You work on memory, on history, on power. Is your work a way of accumulating information, archives and in turn building up a memory that would not be manipulated by power?<\/p>\n<\/div>\n    <div class=\"intBlockQR__R\"><p>This is a very good question. This question touches upon how I, as an individual, the basic unit of a society, and at the same time as an artist, form my own ecosystem. This ecosystem needs to be supported by a language system. For me, this language system not only records facts, but also examines and reflects upon facts. Recording itself is not a repetition or a reiteration of facts, but rather the process from facts to truth. Truth is not reality. The language of an artist provides truth, and this truth can confront with the reality provided by power systems.<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n\n<div class=\"intBlockQR\">\n    <div class=\"intBlockQR__Q\"><p>For this exhibition at the Hetzler gallery, the title highlights materials, &#8220;Marble, Porcelain, Lego&#8221;, while your subject is a critique of authoritarian powers, of the migration crisis. Why this lag?<\/p>\n<\/div>\n    <div class=\"intBlockQR__R\"><p>Materials that I use for my artworks, be it porcelain or marble or Lego, are just different materials that people use at different stages. Some were used in ancient times; some are traditionally used materials, and some are contemporary. The materials themselves are not important. It\u2019s the content that these materials embody that is important. In terms of content, I examine the migration and refugee problem from a historical perspective once again and use the language of history to depict them. We could see that this is a problem about humankind and about human nature. This is what art should be mostly concerned about.<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n\n\n\n<script>\n  $( document ).ready(function() {\n  var pathDirections = {\n  view: 'M155.5,50l-50-50l-5,5l45,45l-45,45l5,5L155.5,50z M0,50l50,50l5-5L10,50L55,5l-5-5L0,50z',\n  exit: 'M55,50L5,0L0,5l45,45L0,95l5,5L55,50z M100.5,50l50,50l5-5l-45-45l45-45l-5-5L100.5,50z',\n};\n\nvar svgURI = 'http:\/\/www.w3.org\/2000\/svg';\n\nFlickity.FullscreenButton.prototype.createIcon = function() {\n  var svg = document.createElementNS( svgURI, 'svg');\n  svg.setAttribute( 'class', 'flickity-button-icon' );\n  svg.setAttribute( 'viewBox', '0 0 155.5 100' );\n  \/\/ path & direction\n  var path = document.createElementNS( svgURI, 'path');\n  var direction = pathDirections[ this.name ];\n  path.setAttribute( 'd', direction );\n  \/\/ put it together\n  svg.appendChild( path );\n  this.element.appendChild( svg );\n};\n});\n<\/script>\n\n\n\n<div class=\"mb-3\">\n<div class=\"carousel carousel-main invisible  carnum1100388931\" data-flickity='{\"lazyLoad\": 1, \"adaptiveHeight\": true, \"fullscreen\": true, \"imagesLoaded\": true, \"pageDots\": false,\"wrapAround\": true,\"arrowShape\":{\"x0\":10,\"x1\":60,\"y1\":50,\"x2\":65,\"y2\":45,\"x3\":20} }'>\n  \n    <div class=\"carousel-cell is-hidden\">\n      <div>\n      \t<figure>\n        <img itemprop=\"image\"   data-flickity-lazyload-srcset=\"https:\/\/artinterview.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/07\/1106_Installationsview_GMH_Paris_Ai-Weiwei_Marbre-Porcelaine-Lego_Nicolas-Brasseur_1-1024x683.jpg 720w, https:\/\/artinterview.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/07\/1106_Installationsview_GMH_Paris_Ai-Weiwei_Marbre-Porcelaine-Lego_Nicolas-Brasseur_1-300x200.jpg 360w\"  sizes=\"(min-width: 1024px) 720px, 360px\"  data-flickity-lazyload-src=\"https:\/\/artinterview.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/07\/1106_Installationsview_GMH_Paris_Ai-Weiwei_Marbre-Porcelaine-Lego_Nicolas-Brasseur_1-1024x683.jpg\" alt=\"Ai Weiwei - Exposition \u00ab\u00a0Marbre, Porcelaine, Lego\u00a0\u00bb - \u00a9 Ai Weiwei studio \/ Courtesy Galerie Max Hetzler Berlin l Paris l London. Photo: Nicolas Brasseur\u00a0\n\" \/>\n\n        <figcaption><p class=\"caption\">Ai Weiwei &#8211; Exposition \u00ab\u00a0Marbre, Porcelaine, Lego\u00a0\u00bb &#8211; \u00a9 Ai Weiwei studio \/ Courtesy Galerie Max Hetzler Berlin l Paris l London. Photo: Nicolas Brasseur\u00a0\n<\/p><\/figcaption>        <\/figure>\n      <\/div>\n    <\/div>\n    \n    <div class=\"carousel-cell is-hidden\">\n      <div>\n      \t<figure>\n        <img itemprop=\"image\"   data-flickity-lazyload-srcset=\"https:\/\/artinterview.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/07\/1106_Installationsview_GMH_Paris_Ai-Weiwei_Marbre-Porcelaine-Lego_Nicolas-Brasseur_2-1024x683.jpg 720w, https:\/\/artinterview.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/07\/1106_Installationsview_GMH_Paris_Ai-Weiwei_Marbre-Porcelaine-Lego_Nicolas-Brasseur_2-300x200.jpg 360w\"  sizes=\"(min-width: 1024px) 720px, 360px\"  data-flickity-lazyload-src=\"https:\/\/artinterview.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/07\/1106_Installationsview_GMH_Paris_Ai-Weiwei_Marbre-Porcelaine-Lego_Nicolas-Brasseur_2-1024x683.jpg\" alt=\"Ai Weiwei - Exposition \u00ab\u00a0Marbre, Porcelaine, Lego\u00a0\u00bb - \u00a9 Ai Weiwei studio \/ Courtesy Galerie Max Hetzler Berlin l Paris l London. Photo: Nicolas Brasseur\u00a0\n\" \/>\n\n        <figcaption><p class=\"caption\">Ai Weiwei &#8211; Exposition \u00ab\u00a0Marbre, Porcelaine, Lego\u00a0\u00bb &#8211; \u00a9 Ai Weiwei studio \/ Courtesy Galerie Max Hetzler Berlin l Paris l London. Photo: Nicolas Brasseur\u00a0\n<\/p><\/figcaption>        <\/figure>\n      <\/div>\n    <\/div>\n    \n    <div class=\"carousel-cell is-hidden\">\n      <div>\n      \t<figure>\n        <img itemprop=\"image\"   data-flickity-lazyload-srcset=\"https:\/\/artinterview.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/07\/After-The-Death-of-Marat0906_Galerie-Max-Hetzler_25668_Ai-Weiwei_After-the-death-of-Marat_Nicolas-Brasseur_1.jpg 720w, https:\/\/artinterview.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/07\/After-The-Death-of-Marat0906_Galerie-Max-Hetzler_25668_Ai-Weiwei_After-the-death-of-Marat_Nicolas-Brasseur_1-300x240.jpg 360w\"  sizes=\"(min-width: 1024px) 720px, 360px\"  data-flickity-lazyload-src=\"https:\/\/artinterview.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/07\/After-The-Death-of-Marat0906_Galerie-Max-Hetzler_25668_Ai-Weiwei_After-the-death-of-Marat_Nicolas-Brasseur_1.jpg\" alt=\"Ai Weiwei - &quot;After The Death of Marat&quot;, 2019\nLEGO bricks\n231 x 269.5 cm.; 91 x 106 1\/8 in.\nedition 1 of 2, plus 1 AP\n\u00a9 Ai Weiwei studio \/ Courtesy Galerie Max Hetzler Berlin l Paris l London. Photo: Nicolas Brasseur\u00a0\n\" \/>\n\n        <figcaption><p class=\"caption\">Ai Weiwei &#8211; &#8220;After The Death of Marat&#8221;, 2019\nLEGO bricks\n231 x 269.5 cm.; 91 x 106 1\/8 in.\nedition 1 of 2, plus 1 AP\n\u00a9 Ai Weiwei studio \/ Courtesy Galerie Max Hetzler Berlin l Paris l London. Photo: Nicolas Brasseur\u00a0\n<\/p><\/figcaption>        <\/figure>\n      <\/div>\n    <\/div>\n    \n    <div class=\"carousel-cell is-hidden\">\n      <div>\n      \t<figure>\n        <img itemprop=\"image\"   data-flickity-lazyload-srcset=\"https:\/\/artinterview.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/07\/1106_Installationsview_GMH_Paris_Ai-Weiwei_Marbre-Porcelaine-Lego_Nicolas-Brasseur_3.jpg 720w, https:\/\/artinterview.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/07\/1106_Installationsview_GMH_Paris_Ai-Weiwei_Marbre-Porcelaine-Lego_Nicolas-Brasseur_3-300x200.jpg 360w\"  sizes=\"(min-width: 1024px) 720px, 360px\"  data-flickity-lazyload-src=\"https:\/\/artinterview.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/07\/1106_Installationsview_GMH_Paris_Ai-Weiwei_Marbre-Porcelaine-Lego_Nicolas-Brasseur_3.jpg\" alt=\"Ai Weiwei &quot;Bi&quot;, 2020\nmarble\n130.3 x 102.6 x 15.1 cm.; 51 1\/4 x 40 3\/8 x 6 in.\n\u00a9 Ai Weiwei studio \/ Courtesy Galerie Max Hetzler Berlin l Paris l London. Photo: Nicolas Brasseur\u00a0\n\" \/>\n\n        <figcaption><p class=\"caption\">Ai Weiwei &#8220;Bi&#8221;, 2020\nmarble\n130.3 x 102.6 x 15.1 cm.; 51 1\/4 x 40 3\/8 x 6 in.\n\u00a9 Ai Weiwei studio \/ Courtesy Galerie Max Hetzler Berlin l Paris l London. Photo: Nicolas Brasseur\u00a0\n<\/p><\/figcaption>        <\/figure>\n      <\/div>\n    <\/div>\n    \n    <div class=\"carousel-cell is-hidden\">\n      <div>\n      \t<figure>\n        <img itemprop=\"image\"   data-flickity-lazyload-srcset=\"https:\/\/artinterview.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/07\/0906_Galerie-Max-Hetzler_25686_Ai-Weiwei_Bi_Nicolas-Brasseur_5-1024x683.jpg 720w, https:\/\/artinterview.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/07\/0906_Galerie-Max-Hetzler_25686_Ai-Weiwei_Bi_Nicolas-Brasseur_5-300x200.jpg 360w\"  sizes=\"(min-width: 1024px) 720px, 360px\"  data-flickity-lazyload-src=\"https:\/\/artinterview.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/07\/0906_Galerie-Max-Hetzler_25686_Ai-Weiwei_Bi_Nicolas-Brasseur_5-1024x683.jpg\" alt=\"Ai Weiwei - &quot;Bi&quot;, 2020\nmarble\n130.3 x 102.6 x 15.1 cm.; 51 1\/4 x 40 3\/8 x 6 in.\n\u00a9 Ai Weiwei studio \/ Courtesy Galerie Max Hetzler Berlin l Paris l London. Photo: Nicolas Brasseur\u00a0\n\" \/>\n\n        <figcaption><p class=\"caption\">Ai Weiwei &#8211; &#8220;Bi&#8221;, 2020\nmarble\n130.3 x 102.6 x 15.1 cm.; 51 1\/4 x 40 3\/8 x 6 in.\n\u00a9 Ai Weiwei studio \/ Courtesy Galerie Max Hetzler Berlin l Paris l London. Photo: Nicolas Brasseur\u00a0\n<\/p><\/figcaption>        <\/figure>\n      <\/div>\n    <\/div>\n    \n    <div class=\"carousel-cell is-hidden\">\n      <div>\n      \t<figure>\n        <img itemprop=\"image\"   data-flickity-lazyload-srcset=\"https:\/\/artinterview.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/07\/1106_Installationsview_GMH_Paris_Ai-Weiwei_Marbre-Porcelaine-Lego_Nicolas-Brasseur_6-1024x683.jpg 720w, https:\/\/artinterview.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/07\/1106_Installationsview_GMH_Paris_Ai-Weiwei_Marbre-Porcelaine-Lego_Nicolas-Brasseur_6-300x200.jpg 360w\"  sizes=\"(min-width: 1024px) 720px, 360px\"  data-flickity-lazyload-src=\"https:\/\/artinterview.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/07\/1106_Installationsview_GMH_Paris_Ai-Weiwei_Marbre-Porcelaine-Lego_Nicolas-Brasseur_6-1024x683.jpg\" alt=\"Ai Weiwei - &quot;Blue-and-White Porcelain Plates&quot;, 2017\nporcelain, cobalt oxide, six pieces\neach: 31 x 31 x 5 cm.; 12 1\/4 x 12 1\/4 x 2 in.\n\u00a9 Ai Weiwei studio \/ Courtesy Galerie Max Hetzler Berlin l Paris l London. Photo: Charles Duprat\u00a0\n\" \/>\n\n        <figcaption><p class=\"caption\">Ai Weiwei &#8211; &#8220;Blue-and-White Porcelain Plates&#8221;, 2017\nporcelain, cobalt oxide, six pieces\neach: 31 x 31 x 5 cm.; 12 1\/4 x 12 1\/4 x 2 in.\n\u00a9 Ai Weiwei studio \/ Courtesy Galerie Max Hetzler Berlin l Paris l London. Photo: Charles Duprat\u00a0\n<\/p><\/figcaption>        <\/figure>\n      <\/div>\n    <\/div>\n    \n    <div class=\"carousel-cell is-hidden\">\n      <div>\n      \t<figure>\n        <img itemprop=\"image\"   data-flickity-lazyload-srcset=\"https:\/\/artinterview.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/07\/Dragon-Vase_25685-1024x800.jpg 720w, https:\/\/artinterview.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/07\/Dragon-Vase_25685-300x234.jpg 360w\"  sizes=\"(min-width: 1024px) 720px, 360px\"  data-flickity-lazyload-src=\"https:\/\/artinterview.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/07\/Dragon-Vase_25685-1024x800.jpg\" alt=\"Ai Weiwei &quot; Dragon Vase&quot;, 2017\nporcelain\n51 x 51 x 50 cm.; 20 1\/8 x 20 1\/8 x 19 3\/4 in.\n\u00a9 Ai Weiwei studio \/ Courtesy Galerie Max Hetzler Berlin l Paris l London. Photo: Charles Duprat\u00a0\n\" \/>\n\n        <figcaption><p class=\"caption\">Ai Weiwei &#8221; Dragon Vase&#8221;, 2017\nporcelain\n51 x 51 x 50 cm.; 20 1\/8 x 20 1\/8 x 19 3\/4 in.\n\u00a9 Ai Weiwei studio \/ Courtesy Galerie Max Hetzler Berlin l Paris l London. Photo: Charles Duprat\u00a0\n<\/p><\/figcaption>        <\/figure>\n      <\/div>\n    <\/div>\n    \n    <div class=\"carousel-cell is-hidden\">\n      <div>\n      \t<figure>\n        <img itemprop=\"image\"   data-flickity-lazyload-srcset=\"https:\/\/artinterview.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/07\/0906_Galerie-Max-Hetzler_25687_Ai-Weiwei_Marble-Toilet-Paper_Nicolas-Brasseur_1-1024x731.jpg 720w, https:\/\/artinterview.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/07\/0906_Galerie-Max-Hetzler_25687_Ai-Weiwei_Marble-Toilet-Paper_Nicolas-Brasseur_1-300x214.jpg 360w\"  sizes=\"(min-width: 1024px) 720px, 360px\"  data-flickity-lazyload-src=\"https:\/\/artinterview.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/07\/0906_Galerie-Max-Hetzler_25687_Ai-Weiwei_Marble-Toilet-Paper_Nicolas-Brasseur_1-1024x731.jpg\" alt=\"Ai Weiwei &quot;Marble Toilet Paper&quot;, 2020\nmarble\n14 x 14 x 13.5 cm.; 5 1\/2 x 5 1\/2 x 5 1\/4 in.\n\u00a9 Ai Weiwei studio \/ Courtesy Galerie Max Hetzler Berlin l Paris l London. Photo: Nicolas Brasseur\u00a0\n\" \/>\n\n        <figcaption><p class=\"caption\">Ai Weiwei &#8220;Marble Toilet Paper&#8221;, 2020\nmarble\n14 x 14 x 13.5 cm.; 5 1\/2 x 5 1\/2 x 5 1\/4 in.\n\u00a9 Ai Weiwei studio \/ Courtesy Galerie Max Hetzler Berlin l Paris l London. Photo: Nicolas Brasseur\u00a0\n<\/p><\/figcaption>        <\/figure>\n      <\/div>\n    <\/div>\n    <\/div>\n\n<div class=\"carousel carousel-nav\"\n  data-flickity='{ \"imagesLoaded\": true,\"lazyLoad\": true, \"asNavFor\": \".carnum1100388931\", \"contain\": true, \"pageDots\": false, \"prevNextButtons\": false }'>\n            <div class=\"item-thumbnail\">\n        <figure>\n          <img decoding=\"async\" class=\"carousel-cell\" src=\"https:\/\/artinterview.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/07\/1106_Installationsview_GMH_Paris_Ai-Weiwei_Marbre-Porcelaine-Lego_Nicolas-Brasseur_1-150x150.jpg\" data-flickity-lazyload=\"https:\/\/artinterview.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/07\/1106_Installationsview_GMH_Paris_Ai-Weiwei_Marbre-Porcelaine-Lego_Nicolas-Brasseur_1-150x150.jpg\" alt=\"Thumbnail of \" \/>\n        <\/figure>\n      <\/div>\n            <div class=\"item-thumbnail\">\n        <figure>\n          <img decoding=\"async\" class=\"carousel-cell\" src=\"https:\/\/artinterview.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/07\/1106_Installationsview_GMH_Paris_Ai-Weiwei_Marbre-Porcelaine-Lego_Nicolas-Brasseur_2-150x150.jpg\" data-flickity-lazyload=\"https:\/\/artinterview.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/07\/1106_Installationsview_GMH_Paris_Ai-Weiwei_Marbre-Porcelaine-Lego_Nicolas-Brasseur_2-150x150.jpg\" alt=\"Thumbnail of \" \/>\n        <\/figure>\n      <\/div>\n            <div class=\"item-thumbnail\">\n        <figure>\n          <img decoding=\"async\" class=\"carousel-cell\" src=\"https:\/\/artinterview.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/07\/After-The-Death-of-Marat0906_Galerie-Max-Hetzler_25668_Ai-Weiwei_After-the-death-of-Marat_Nicolas-Brasseur_1-150x150.jpg\" data-flickity-lazyload=\"https:\/\/artinterview.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/07\/After-The-Death-of-Marat0906_Galerie-Max-Hetzler_25668_Ai-Weiwei_After-the-death-of-Marat_Nicolas-Brasseur_1-150x150.jpg\" alt=\"Thumbnail of \" \/>\n        <\/figure>\n      <\/div>\n            <div class=\"item-thumbnail\">\n        <figure>\n          <img decoding=\"async\" class=\"carousel-cell\" src=\"https:\/\/artinterview.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/07\/1106_Installationsview_GMH_Paris_Ai-Weiwei_Marbre-Porcelaine-Lego_Nicolas-Brasseur_3-150x150.jpg\" data-flickity-lazyload=\"https:\/\/artinterview.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/07\/1106_Installationsview_GMH_Paris_Ai-Weiwei_Marbre-Porcelaine-Lego_Nicolas-Brasseur_3-150x150.jpg\" alt=\"Thumbnail of \" \/>\n        <\/figure>\n      <\/div>\n            <div class=\"item-thumbnail\">\n        <figure>\n          <img decoding=\"async\" class=\"carousel-cell\" src=\"https:\/\/artinterview.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/07\/0906_Galerie-Max-Hetzler_25686_Ai-Weiwei_Bi_Nicolas-Brasseur_5-150x150.jpg\" data-flickity-lazyload=\"https:\/\/artinterview.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/07\/0906_Galerie-Max-Hetzler_25686_Ai-Weiwei_Bi_Nicolas-Brasseur_5-150x150.jpg\" alt=\"Thumbnail of \" \/>\n        <\/figure>\n      <\/div>\n            <div class=\"item-thumbnail\">\n        <figure>\n          <img decoding=\"async\" class=\"carousel-cell\" src=\"https:\/\/artinterview.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/07\/1106_Installationsview_GMH_Paris_Ai-Weiwei_Marbre-Porcelaine-Lego_Nicolas-Brasseur_6-150x150.jpg\" data-flickity-lazyload=\"https:\/\/artinterview.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/07\/1106_Installationsview_GMH_Paris_Ai-Weiwei_Marbre-Porcelaine-Lego_Nicolas-Brasseur_6-150x150.jpg\" alt=\"Thumbnail of \" \/>\n        <\/figure>\n      <\/div>\n            <div class=\"item-thumbnail\">\n        <figure>\n          <img decoding=\"async\" class=\"carousel-cell\" src=\"https:\/\/artinterview.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/07\/Dragon-Vase_25685-150x150.jpg\" data-flickity-lazyload=\"https:\/\/artinterview.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/07\/Dragon-Vase_25685-150x150.jpg\" alt=\"Thumbnail of \" \/>\n        <\/figure>\n      <\/div>\n            <div class=\"item-thumbnail\">\n        <figure>\n          <img decoding=\"async\" class=\"carousel-cell\" src=\"https:\/\/artinterview.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/07\/0906_Galerie-Max-Hetzler_25687_Ai-Weiwei_Marble-Toilet-Paper_Nicolas-Brasseur_1-150x150.jpg\" data-flickity-lazyload=\"https:\/\/artinterview.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/07\/0906_Galerie-Max-Hetzler_25687_Ai-Weiwei_Marble-Toilet-Paper_Nicolas-Brasseur_1-150x150.jpg\" alt=\"Thumbnail of \" \/>\n        <\/figure>\n      <\/div>\n        <\/div>\n<\/div>\n<style>\n  .invisible.flickity-enabled {visibility: visible !important}\n  <\/style>\n\n<div class=\"intBlockQR\">\n    <div class=\"intBlockQR__Q\"><p>Do materiality and purpose form a whole?<\/p>\n<\/div>\n    <div class=\"intBlockQR__R\"><p>Material has no intention, as I said. Through my hands, it is no longer material. It becomes a carrier of aesthetics and philosophy. So, they must be a whole. Without my ideology which is infused in the material, this material does not interest me.<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n\n<div class=\"intBlockQR\">\n    <div class=\"intBlockQR__Q\"><p>Why is the artisanal dimension of the works important? Are arts and crafts two sides of the same coin?<\/p>\n<\/div>\n    <div class=\"intBlockQR__R\"><p>This is a very good question. When we do art, or exercise our basic aesthetic judgment, or even our ethics, we are all based on humanism. We are based on our understandings of human beings, the boundaries of human beings, all the appropriate or inappropriate dimensions and proportions in relation to human beings. The purpose of art is to establish a kind of communication and exchange. When you express yourself, you must consider the receiving end of the communication, of course, and how they receive the information. So, I use a lot of languages from ancient times, ancient techniques, or a common understanding of craftsmanship, and lift them up to another level. So, by doing that, as a whole, always as a whole, I challenge our state of mind.<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n\n<div class=\"intBlockQR\">\n    <div class=\"intBlockQR__Q\"><p>Can tradition be considered as a brake?<\/p>\n<\/div>\n    <div class=\"intBlockQR__R\"><p>Traditions have many functions, historically speaking. By understanding traditions, we know how human beings have gone through these years, what the way of understanding is, what the language of communication is. Traditions also remind us how to depart from the tradition and how to form a language of our contemporary time.<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n\n<div class=\"intBlockQR\">\n    <div class=\"intBlockQR__Q\"><p>Is it important to break the rules?<\/p>\n<\/div>\n    <div class=\"intBlockQR__R\"><p>The most important criterion to measure artists\u2019 artworks is to check if they break the rules. The meaning of break the rules is, first of all, to know what the rules are and then to know how to break the rules. If you don\u2019t know what the rules are, you won\u2019t be able to break the rules. If your breaking of the rules does not involve what the rules once were, then it is meaningless &#8211; what exactly did you break in this case?<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n\n<div class=\"intBlockQR\">\n    <div class=\"intBlockQR__Q\"><p>What do all your artistic practices have in common?<\/p>\n<\/div>\n    <div class=\"intBlockQR__R\"><p>The common ground of my art is to look at everything with curiosity and interest, and with insights that I didn\u2019t have on the previous day.<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n\n<div class=\"intBlockQR\">\n    <div class=\"intBlockQR__Q\"><p>Does activism increasingly require working collaboratively?<\/p>\n<\/div>\n    <div class=\"intBlockQR__R\"><p>I don\u2019t think so. An individual can be a world of its own. Their activism can be completely independent. If there are opportunities of collaboration, that is also very good.<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n\n<div class=\"intBlockQR\">\n    <div class=\"intBlockQR__Q\"><p>You are now settled in Portugal, after having lived in New York, in China of course, and in Berlin. Do you plan to rebuild a workshop like the one that was destroyed in the suburbs of Beijing?<\/p>\n<\/div>\n    <div class=\"intBlockQR__R\"><p>I am building a new studio in Portugal now. This studio is a continuation of the studio which was demolished. There is consistency, both formally and spiritually.<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n\n<div class=\"intBlockQR\">\n    <div class=\"intBlockQR__Q\"><p>How does your position as an exiled artist nourish your work?<\/p>\n<\/div>\n    <div class=\"intBlockQR__R\"><p>When an artist understands that they are in exile, it\u2019s a kind of self-consciousness and self-awareness. Broadly speaking, human beings are all in exile. Our planet is a miracle of coincidences, and it doesn\u2019t necessarily have to be like this. So, being in exile in the universe is probably an eternal topic.<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n\n<div class=\"intBlockQR\">\n    <div class=\"intBlockQR__Q\"><p>The context in which you exhibit is important. How do you slip into the white cube of a gallery?<\/p>\n<\/div>\n    <div class=\"intBlockQR__R\"><p>Galleries or museums sometimes look more like a scientific research center, as they try to provide some so-called standards. They are a neutral environment for things to happen and for the audience to see. But for artists like me, I don\u2019t really care. I appreciate white walls and white-washed lighting, but I also appreciate the walls of a federal prison or a factory or a market.<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n\n<div class=\"intBlockQR\">\n    <div class=\"intBlockQR__Q\"><p>In an interview with Hans Ulrich Obrist, you said that it is living conditions more than works that make art. Could you explain to us?<\/p>\n<\/div>\n    <div class=\"intBlockQR__R\"><p>For me, personally, without my living conditions, my understandings of life, my memories, my emotions and feelings, my art would not exist.<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n\n<div class=\"intBlockQR\">\n    <div class=\"intBlockQR__Q\"><p>For several years, your blog has been an important part of your artistic project. Does the Internet remain an important tool for this social scupture of which Ulrich Obrist spoke?<\/p>\n<\/div>\n    <div class=\"intBlockQR__R\"><p>Internet for me is an important place to receive information, but not the most important possibility of expression. My expression through films, exhibitions and interviews is stronger, I think. Internet gave me some opportunities to document instantaneous happenings. Responding to images is responding to reality. It must work in different levels and with different depths.<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n\n<div class=\"intBlockQR\">\n    <div class=\"intBlockQR__Q\"><p>Why do you think that awareness of the inhuman situation is easily done at the individual level but not at the level of governments?<\/p>\n<\/div>\n    <div class=\"intBlockQR__R\"><p>In the end, our understanding about good and bad, and fairness and injustice, must be grounded in everyone\u2019s individual thinking. What governments are concerned about is power and a balance between political factions. When it comes to the issue of good and bad, correctness and incorrectness, governments cannot do anything.<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n\n<div class=\"intBlockQR\">\n    <div class=\"intBlockQR__Q\"><p>Could you present to us \u201aRapture, your exhibition at the Cordoaria Nacional in Lisbon?<\/p>\n<\/div>\n    <div class=\"intBlockQR__R\"><p>The exhibition \u201cRapture\u201d takes place in Portugal. This exhibition is the biggest exhibition of mine to date, in terms of scale. It includes both the aspect of reality and that of fantasy. Over 100 artworks are exhibited, and some artworks are comprised of several dozens of components. In these artworks, material is not only material, but rather, it encapsulates the clash between history and reality, which cannot be compared to other exhibitions. It is a very complicated living being. I always see exhibitions as living beings. 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